Here’s a fine fellow:  Joshua Corneloup.  Josh is a Fundy Christian street preacher in Adelaide. He’s that type of Christian that admits his god is vengeful and “hates” sinners and justifies all his genocidal actions in the Old Testament by claiming that his god has the “moral authority” to do whatever he likes. In short he’s a Fruitloop short of a full breakfast.

This is the same group of Street-Preachers that recently took to bashing gays at a gay-rights rally and are regularly being hauled off by police. A public nuisance with a PA.

About a year ago Josh and me had a Facebook discussion covering Secular Law & Christianity culminating in him asking me to appear in a video debating with his friends.  Why didn’t I accept his wonderful offer? Because, during the discussion on his page, he had already dishonestly deleted any of my posts that he could not answer. I had zero confidence that he wouldn’t edit any video footage he took of me to make me look as foolish as possible. I was hardly likely to go it alone in his home turf without the ability to take my own footage. In short, it was an ambush.

On his site at  www.proofofgod.org he has devoted a page to me refusing his “debate” here.

He also makes a few claims about what I said in the above discussions…time to clear these up:

“He was refuted regarding bible contradictions,”

I think we can agree that everybody but the most extreme Fundy understands that the Bible has literally hundreds of contradictions…he simply ignored all them and claimed they weren’t contradictions at all and “the Bible is the perfect word of God”. You know the type…

Here’s a few pretty clear-cut examples:

God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious
Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/

Killing commanded
Ex 32:27
Killing forbidden
Ex 20:13

The list is HUGE..see this Chart from Project Reason!

“he claimed Saxons and Vikings came before Christianity,”

No I didn’t. This came from an argument on the origins of British Law. I said their law came to BRITAIN before Christianity did. The Norman’s arrived to find an extant SAXON legal system which they adopted. The Normans didn’t bring European law with them. Later Christians did bring in further ROMAN Laws from Justinian I’s summary of the laws. From that they produced Habeus Corpus.

“he claims he is a scientific type but when asked for independant evidence for a common ancestor, he failed miserably and presented no evidence,”

Well the DNA evidence is UNDENIABLE…but he managed to ignore it anyway. We can show EXACTLY the DNA changes between chimps and humans and where they ocurred….enough to potentially recreate our common ancestor in the future.

“he claims that sex with a 15 year old is not immoral.”

Here we were talking about Sweden with it’s pretty brilliant society. The age of consent is 15 in Sweden so that they don’t end up locking away experimenting teens (the US does this!). An older adult with authority taking advantage of this would be breaking laws that discern age of consent from age of majority (18). Josh was trying anything to make a country he’d never been to look immoral, when they’re at least a hundred times more moral than him! (I lived there for 15 months)

Enough for now, but when these people show that they’re willing to lie for their god, it’s a bit of a concern when they try and claim we’re “in love with sin” (inferring immorality). Perhaps Joshua Corneloup needs to be reminded not to “bear false witness”.

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